Discussion topic - what does your guy think?

topic posted Sat, February 9, 2008 - 8:16 AM by  Zina
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As you may know, I'm fairly new to belly dance, just been in lessons for a year. Without getting into specifics about my relationship, I am allowed to continue belly dance (spending time & $$$ on lessons and costuming) as long as I show progress in a manner pleasing to my significant other. Some nights ago I was showing him videos of various types of belly dancers. In a nutshell, he likes cabaret type with lots of hip action (this is more how women dance in his native country), he thinks Rachel Brice is amazing but watching her his eye was mainly attracted to specific parts of her body at any one time, with tribal his eye was drawn to the heavy looking costume; with gothic he quickly got bored. He likes for the dance to be about all three. I really appreciated his feedback as it gives me direction as to what to keep studying and for future costuming ideas.

Has anyone else had such feedback from their partner? I really liked his opinions, have you liked comments you've received?

Zina

P.S. I'm posting this here as he's been really happy with the costumes I've put together which are mostly tribaret cause we like silky and sparkles!
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  • Re: Discussion topic - what does your guy think?

    Sat, February 9, 2008 - 9:30 AM
    I have been studying bellydance for a little over three years, and over time my man has developed quite the eye for bellydancing. He can talk very specifically about dancers' abilities with regards to their isolations, their stage presence, etc. As such, he's become immeasurably helpful with my own dancing, as he can point out very specific things I'm doing right and wrong. But ultimately, he don't care what I'm doing as long as I'm having fun, and he's supportive whether I'm doing great or I'm frustrated. I'm a lucky gal. ;-)
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      Sat, February 9, 2008 - 11:08 AM
      my dh(dear husband)
      likes dancers to be confident and put effort into costumes-no matter what level they are at
      He was totally disappointed seeing some girls wear sweat pants and t-shirts for our spring show
      and some just looked like they rather be doing something else


      I even took him to see the BDSS and he liked both Cabaret and Tribal

      • Re: Discussion topic - what does your guy think?

        Sat, February 9, 2008 - 5:09 PM
        My dudefriend liked my dancing skills so much he wanted to learn so he could keep up with me.

        And he has quite a heaping mound of costuming opinions, dance style opinions and everything else. And he gets very irritated by bad costuming in almost an homosexual sense. He is far more vindictive of ill-fitted costumes or ones that are over-exposing or under done or cheap or . . .or . . . he is very picky, and outspoken about costumes.

        And technique. He could complain about indigo belly dance!!

        So on the whole, yes. Men are picky about the whole area of bellydance.
        • Re: Discussion topic - what does your guy think?

          Sat, February 9, 2008 - 9:51 PM
          >>my dudefriend<<

          Octavia, I love you....lol!
          • Re: Discussion topic - what does your guy think?

            Sun, February 10, 2008 - 1:26 AM
            My beloved other half is not critical of me at all...he is 100% supportive with no restrictions on my spendings, lessons or anything else related to bellydance.

            And if he even dared to try to tell me what and how much I was 'allowed' to spend- he'd have gravel rash on his knees from begging me to let him out of the doghouse.

            He has become very knowledgeable about BD, in all its forms, and is even learning to play the tabla so that eventually I'll be able to do a drum solo with him.
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              Sun, February 10, 2008 - 6:30 AM
              My situation is much like yours Amara. As long as I am enjoying it and we can afford what I spend, my husband doesn't give it a second thought. He's not interested in learning drums or anything like that but he does volunteer at events
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                Sun, February 10, 2008 - 8:10 AM
                Mine won't help at events, sometimes he will attend a performance. Usually, he stays home and plays with the computer. Or Guitar Hero :)
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                  Sun, February 10, 2008 - 9:23 AM
                  My BF is fabulous about putting up with all the dance "stuff". I pay for my own classes (though one month I was short and he did cover me), and I pay for the bulk of my costumes, he is, however, responsible for my Bella, my Tribal Source belt and my Moresca costume.

                  He was an Arabic translator at one time, and knows a great deal about the culture and history of the Mideast. And he makes some wonderful Middle Eastern food :-)

                  As for what he thinks styles of dance... He does not like Egyptian lycra costumes, for the most part he likes Turkish styles with fuller skirts, and "old-school-now-tribaret" styles. He hates Melodia pants for dancing. He prefers fast songs over slow, and seems to enjoy drum solos alot. He doesnt much dig Tribal Fusion at all (its not much my thing either), though when we went to see BDSS he did like Rachel and Kami from the fusion group, and actually enjoyed a couple of the pieces more than I thought he would (Opa Cupa and the one where they were kinda mechanical dolls). He seems to like vids of Sonia, PJ and Ansuya when he's watching over my shoulder.

                  In all, he's quite tolerant of my obcession. ;-)
                • Helen - I have a similar situation to yours! Although mine would help at events if I asked him too (ok, he'd just have too) he doesn't attend performances or haflas as I understand that it's not a dance form that he likes to watch. Also, if he EVER told me what I can or can't spend on costumes and props he would find himself without anywhere to sleep.

                  Zina - No-one should ever dictate to you what style you can or cannot dance because they don't like it, dancing is an expression of yourself, for yourself not for any man! And he should love you enough to support you, regardless of what type of costumes you put together.
  • Re: Discussion topic - what does your guy think?

    Mon, February 11, 2008 - 8:31 AM
    My boyfriend definitely supports me in my bellydance "habit." :-) He will give me feedback if I ask for it on my costumes, hair, choreography, etc. He will come to a performance if I ask and he can afford it. But if he's seen the choreography before, he will usually beg off. He really just comes to give boyfriend support, rather than because he really like to watch bellydance (though he was very impressed at a performace by Bellydance Superstar Moria) As far as just being enraptured by watching me dance around the house, not so much.
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      Mon, February 11, 2008 - 8:37 AM
      My dh will occasionally attend a performance, but otherwise doesn't seem to care one way or the other. He says he likes watching me dance and that I seem to be getting pretty good. But I suppose that's almost 12years of marriage talking. There's no discussion about the money I spend, so I figure it's a "don't ask / don't tell" thing.

      Riding motorcycles is his thing - bellydancing is mine.

      ~E
  • Re: Discussion topic - what does your guy think?

    Mon, February 11, 2008 - 10:11 AM
    You are "allowed" to continue to belly dance as long as you "show progress in a manner pleasing" to your significant other???

    I am of the mindset that bellydancing is a beautiful way for a woman to express herself, to get a good workout, and to get in touch with her feminity - regardless of what anybody thinks. I am not usually judgmental, but since you're asking, I say dance the way you want to dance as long as you're having fun - regardless of what your sig other thinks is sexy or whatever.
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    Mon, February 11, 2008 - 1:19 PM
    My husband is Greek so he was familiar with bellydancing at restaurants and as a social dance for a while already. Once I took up bellydancing and started to learn more about various styles he kind of learned along with me (probably due to my blabbing on and on about it ;) and he's developed more of a discerning eye himself. I took him to see BDSS and he really enjoyed the tribal dancers because it was something new for him, but he enjoys the cabaret performances as well. Nowadays when watching various dancers he might say, "this dancer has very clean isolations but that other dancer has some interesting footwork..." He's been very supportive since he knows how much fun I'm having with it (although his eyes will widen sometimes when he hears how much some things cost, and sometimes wishes I was a bit less busy -- we have a long weekend coming up and I've filled it up with a hafla, a charity show, and rehearsal!)

    along the lines of this thread, take a look at this:

    www.thehipcircle.com/assets/...dApp.gif
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      Mon, February 11, 2008 - 2:32 PM
      Wow, i love that application!!!

      I'm not to fond of the wording of the original post either, but not my business really.

      My husband is extremely supportive. He goes to all my shows and takes care of our daughter during performances. He travels to workshops with me and after last year's Spirit and seeing Raquy and the Cavemen, he bought a drum and is taking a workshop himself at this year's spirit.

      I make almost all of my costuming so he's ok when i spend additional funds for shiny objects. All in all, he's a pretty good supporter.
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        Mon, February 11, 2008 - 6:08 PM
        My DH of 32 years has never begrudged me ONE PENNY OR ONE MOMENT I have spent in dance, even though at times I have gone overboard with time and money. He says it is because he sees the joy it brings me and that makes him happy. He enjoys watching the dance, socializing with the members of the troupe (spouses as well) and drumming with our drum circle, which includes several of the spouses.
        I know my opinion doesn't really matter, but IMHO, if you aren't married to the guy, or if he is not your sole means of support, he doesn't really have the right to tell you if you can continue or not. Sends up a big red flag of a control issue.
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          Mon, February 11, 2008 - 8:14 PM
          When the initial poster started this thread she stated "Without getting into specifics about my relationship..." - that tells me that she is in this relationship by choice, and I am going to guess that its prolly not a "normal" relationship. "It takes all kinds" is a very true statement in this world, and what makes some people freak out, actually makes others quite happy. Not going to drag out any details or psychobabble here, as this is not the forum for it, but I DO think she was hoping to avoid these type of remarks ;-)
          • Re: Discussion topic - what does your guy think?

            Mon, February 11, 2008 - 8:33 PM
            Basina, I understand where you are coming from, but perhaps Zina shouldn't have posted this thread at all if she didn't want her post coming under scrutiny? I know her personal relationship situation, and although I will not post regarding it, I was a bit concerned that she had posted discussing this when it is obvious from her post that her relationship does not fall within most peoples regard of a 'traditional' relationship, and therefore her partners response is entirely different from the average husband or boyfriend, and posted in a public thread leaves Zina wide open for criticism. I believe if she was worried about disclosing about her relationship, that she would have been better to have not said anything about it- because a lack of understanding her personal situation has led people to assume things, and to give her advice that is perhaps not so applicable given the true circumstances.

            Zina I mean no disrespect, nor do I condemn you for your choices- I have many friends in your position, and I have also been there myself many many years ago- I am just concerned that your post (although not going into specifics) said enough to provoke the kinds of responses it has for those who are actually paying attention, and to those who saw your partners response as 'not quite the usual'.
            I agree with Basina- It takes all kinds....
  • Re: Discussion topic - what does your guy think?

    Tue, February 12, 2008 - 7:53 AM
    I've been studying bellydance for just over a year too and my fiance is very supportive. I'm very lucky with him because he went to school for fashion design. We sit down a hash out an idea for costume or practice wear and he creates it from scratch, even makes the pattern, then I decorate. He loves getting involved that way. He also loves to come to performances or to just watch me dance around the house. I think he prefers Tribal because of the alternative music and tattooed dancers, but he does enjoy most types of bellydance....unless a dancer didn't put effort into their costume.
  • Re: Discussion topic - what does your guy think?

    Sun, April 12, 2009 - 4:39 PM
    My bf supports me in everything i do, and since bellydance has developed itself over the years as a part of me, he supports it too. I am a tribal bellydancer too, and i must confess that he likes the classical egyptian style more. He also think that it's too gothic, but he would never say that i shouldn't do tribal style. Apart from that, he attends almost all of my performances and compliments me when i did well. He's also my personal photographer, haha :o), AND he went to see the BDSS with me. I asked for his opinion and indeed, he liked the cabaret more. In my opinion, tribal fusion could seem boring to people who don't know it or practice it. It just is less focused on the entertaining, and that's what non-bellydance audiences are looking for, i think.
  • Re: Discussion topic - what does your guy think?

    Tue, April 14, 2009 - 7:39 PM
    my husband has alot of opinions on dance, particularly where im concerned, but he doesnt restrict me in any way. He attends every performance, he was a percussionist in high school but hasnt found a hand drum that interests him over-much :(

    He loves tribal, he thinks cabaret is far too "fluffy" for someone of my temperment, and since were both very theatrical personalities (gamer geeks), he digs most of the gothic stuff. His complaints come in the form of conceptual critique, and coregraphy critique. He loves the non traditional costuming but isnt fooled by flashy digs when he sees a girl who can only do one thing well. He looks for well rounded dancers who have obviously thought their stuff through and practiced. I guess you could say he looks for dynamic movement :) .
    • When I had a guy-friend-man-friend-boy whatever you want to call it! LOL! He was really supportive of my dancing, and he knew when to keep his mouth shut. He didn't really have too much of an opinion about other dancers other than their obvious "assets" and he tended to enjoy cabaret a bit more than tribal although he did like goth quite a bit because of the slowness of the moves and all the undulations and tattoos involved. I for one would not have a man in my life that wasn't supportive of my bellydance habit because it is so much a part of my life, so all you lucky ladies out there with supportive guys, go give em a hug!!! LOL!!!
      Happy dancing,
      Tracy
  • I have been dancing Belly Dance for 19 years. I started in traditional middle eastern (and still perform in a troupe) but in the last three years I started into Tribal. My husband of almost 7 years has been to many events and enjoys watching. He does say that he likes the Tribal because it is more "free" and less inhibiting, but that the cabaret is nice and beautiful and elegant. I spend about equal time working on both and he appreciates it because I enjoy it and of course some of the added benefits of seeing half naked ladies running aroun (reminds me of being a male cheerleader in HS.!)
  • i started dancing and dating the current Person at the same time more or less, a little over a year ago
    so he's gotten to see me go from "omgz my shimmy muscles hurt, i suck i suck!" to "i can totally do a solo or improv or WHATEVER!'
    so i think he finds that interesting
    he seems to get into it because he appreciates anyone who has the ambition to do something, particularly performance art type people =p
    he gives me alot of feedback, like how i tend to really restrain my arms. in the last solo i let them go a bit more and it really helped
    i'm working on a reprise of bride of frankenstein for this year's halloween show, and i think he's going to help me as Dr. Frankenstein :) haha
    should be fun
    it's nice to have someone who will come to even the little drum circles and who seems to appreciate them
    • I met by boyfriend belly dancing, so he knew what he was getting in to from the start ;-)

      He actually took a few classes with me and performed once with my old troupe (lets not talk about the blue satin..). He goes to shows with me and actually forms opinions on dancers based on dance merit, not sex appeal. I think he likes it, I'm sure he gets some pleasure from telling people hes dating a belly dancer, but he's also quick to defend it as an art. He really likes Rachel Brice, Ariellah and tribal dancers. He did have a few problems with the Gothic Bellydance DVD though lol

      He tries to help me work out combination's but his vocab is a bit lacking, usually he tells me to do 'the hip thing, no, the other hip thing!'. He also takes care of our critters when I'm gone for dance, I would never have been able to go to Tribal Con without his help.
  • My hubby is really happy that I've found something that I enjoy to do....whatever type of dance it is......I dance in all different styles (ballet, jazz,modern) but bellydance/tribal gives me the added pleasure my familial history (mom is from Morocco) and being able to tap into my crafty side. I just bought a sewing machine and I've made 3 costumes already! He loves that!
    • My guy is really supportive, he loves my shows, especially when it involves live musics. We had a show on Saturday night, he fell off a chair filming the performance. During the rehearsal for the show, he gave my troupemate and I a few ideas for the choreo. He's a great source for a more outsider opinion.
      • my huband loved tribal fusion from the get go. he loves the outfits, snakey moves, isolations, attitude,he has become a connoisseur.he tells me what he thinks of mine and others moves,outfits,etc. i value his opion but as i try to develop my own style, i dont think he appreciates that its good to step out of the box and try different things . like i would like to study a bit of cabaret, folk. appart from that he is a gem, drives me to workshops,puts up with me giggling in front of the mirror while he watches tv,bless all bellydancer`s partners!
  • Isn't it funny how we evolve? My love for ATS grows daily and my SO is liking it because it's given me so much more confidence in improvisation and overall. He's liking the costumes more and more and the other day suggested it might be time for me to invest in a nice black skirt. Holy Moly, Flying Skirts here I come!!! :)
  • Re: Discussion topic - what does your guy think?

    Sun, June 28, 2009 - 10:03 PM
    my husband is a hispanic man and has this natural knack for dance. he can pop and lock EXTREMELY well..i love zoe jakes but he would kick her bootie in a popping battle even though her popping is so fluid haha. so he really likes to help me become mroe fluid with my movements since that is his personal thing.

    overall though. he does not "allow me " to continue..i do what i want. but he fully supports me and loves the fact that i enjoy it and put myself out their. he would support me in anything i do though
  • So, I used to think my hubby was not paying attention - that my BD was just something to geek out about. ; ) BUT, this weekend my Ipod crashed (very bad considering it is my main music delivery device) and what did he do? He spend a good chunk of his own time researching the fixes, comparing the costs of a new fancier one, and even offered up his to me - potentially wiping out his music stash. He found the factory reset - which is holding the up & center buttons down for 6 seconds, BTW - and restored my IPod.

    His reasoning was this... "you can't dance without music and dance is a living, breathing part of you" I think it's the sweetest thing he's ever said. *hugs hubby*
    • Zahira, oy my god, that is so sweet! You are so lucky! ^___^
      • I've been married for 40 years and dancing off and on for 35 of those years. Over the years I've studied and performed American Cabaret, Turkish, Rom, ATS, folkloric and dark fusion (my own personal fave). I've never heard one word of criticism from my husband about what I do or how much it costs. He does have some trouble understanding why I can no longer wear the costumes I aquired back in the '70's (duh, they're 3 sizes too small, hello!). I took him with me costume shopping about 3 months ago. He didn't ask how much, just grinned when I walked out in my new bedlah. I know he doesn't like dark fusion, but he still has an honest look of pride and admiration on his face when he watches me dance. He's my biggest fan and biggest critic. But, I don't dance for him or with his permission. I dance for me and me, alone. It's what I do. I am a dancer; a dancer dances... because she feels the rhythm in her soul. No man should ever tell a woman she can't dance or dictate to her which style to perform when she does dance. There's a word for men like that... they're called the Taliban.
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    Re: Discussion topic - what does your guy think?

    Tue, July 28, 2009 - 10:44 PM
    apart from any subcurrents of relationships... what i notice for most of the thread is blokes who give a damn about their ladies' activities, and hence, their ladies lives.
    my ex SO didn't really give a rat's arse. "at least it keeps you out of trouble", in a bored private-school London voice... :(
    i did say "ex", right? ;)
    • my boyfriend of 7 yrs has always been cool,( if disinterested by now), eh, I have no interest in golf or playing guitar.
      • Re: Discussion topic - what does your guy think?

        Sat, August 22, 2009 - 5:22 PM
        Without getting into specifics about my relationship, I am allowed to continue belly dance (spending time & $$$ on lessons and costuming) as long as I show progress in a manner pleasing to my significant other

        You're WHAT?? "ALLOWED" to take lessons, get costuming etc...?? Sister, that chit doesn't wash with me... If my man EVER stipulated 'conditions' concerning my personal activities, he'd be out the door so fast it would make his head spin!!!
        Absolutely NO man has the right to put conditions on what you do with your life... You're right, I don't know anything about your relationship other than what you posted, and I should probably mind my own business, but I've been on this planet 59 hard years, and have had my share of controlling relationships. Well that chit don't fly no more.
        I'm assuming (from the way you worded it) that he's paying all the expenses involved in your dancing interest. EVEN SO - IT SHOULD NOT COME TO CONDITIONS. HE DOESN'T OWN YOU. HE'S DOING IT OF HIS OWN FREE WILL, AND SHOULD BE DEMANDING NOTHING IN RETURN, even if it's 'only' "showing progress in a manner pleasing to".... PLEASE.
        Get a job... pay for your own classes. That way you can tell him to take a hike the next time he has anything to say about it.
        ALL THAT SAID... I support you in your endeavor, and hope you find dance as rewarding as I have.;-) (Hope you find it in your heart to forgive my rant)
        BTW, my hubby completely, absolutely without a shadow of a doubt LOVES my dancing. He has developed a good eye for good dancing, too, and often offers critiques of dancers' performances (whether I wanna hear it or not, lol!) But the bottom line here is, I dance because I want to,... Not because I need to please someone else.
        K, I'll STFU now....... peace to u ;-)
  • Re: Discussion topic - what does your guy think?

    Mon, August 24, 2009 - 6:07 PM
    I'm in a fairly new relationship (2 mos) with a guy that I've known for about 5-6 yrs (though we've only recently reconnected). He knew about my passion for belly dance (and by extension, all dance) before we started dating. He thinks it's cool (and that I look hot in my costume) but mostly he's likes that I have something I'm so passionate and excited about. He likes to see me happy. ^_^

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